Name: Beginners
ISBN: 9781409090373

Raymond Carver

What We Talk About When We Talk About Love is Carver's most famous collection of short stories and remians one of the most influential pieces of modern literature to date. But the original, unedited manuscript, Beginners – published here for the first time, was almost fifty per cent longer than the published collection. This restored version of Carver's stories reveals what was previously unsaid, filling in the narrative silences that have both inspired and mystified readers for so long. Beginners is a fascinating insight into the aesthetic of a literary great and, in the questions it raises, may just spark off one of the great cultural debates of our times.

Beginners

Beatriz Salvador 

That morning she pours Teacher's over my belly and licks it off. That afternoon she tries to jump out the window.

I could hear my heart beating. I could hear everyone's heart. I could hear the human noise we sat there making, not one of us moving, not even when the room went dark.

In his second collection, Carver establishes his reputation as one of the most celebrated and beloved short-story writers in American literature—a haunting meditation on love, loss, and companionship, and finding one’s way through the dark.

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What We Talk About When We Talk About Love

Unfortunately not my cup of tea. His writing is brilliant and put highlights on characters that are overlooked and rather ignored in other stories; but it definitely could have had better execution.

Alisha

Louis Norton

Luke Pearce

Cullen Bounds

Profound in their simplicity, Carver's stories will remain with me for the rest of my life. Phenomenal collection.

This powerful collection of stories, set in the mid-West among the lonely men and women who drink, fish and play cards to ease the passing of time, was the first by Raymond Carver to be published in the UK. With its spare, colloquial narration and razor-sharp sense of how people really communicate, the collection was to become one of the most influential literary works of the 1980s.

What We Talk about when We Talk about Love

Gavin

I'm surprised to find Carver relying on punchlines - last-line narrative puns - in most of these stories. There is: a lot of rambling, a lot of meanness (breakups, fights, conversations that would be much healthier if they were honest fights), and then a transcendent or transcendently degraded last line. It would almost be not worth reading if you lost all the last lines. Here's what I mean by a pun - from 'The Calm':

  But today I was thinking of that place, of Crescent City, and of how I was trying out a new life there with my wife, and how, in the barber's chair that morning, I had made up my mind to go. I was thinking today about the calm I felt when I closed my eyes and let the barber's fingers move through my hair, the sweetness of those fingers, the hair already starting to grow.

I expected him to care for his wretches.

The one from the wife's perspective, 'So Much Water So Close To Home' is the only standout. Completely menacing with almost no action, no flash. Good portraits of the oafish, as opposed to the rapey, as opposed to the long-suffering. I can't decide if the last line is acquiescence or perversity.

The title story is surprisingly slight, a 16-page Symposium with oddly inarticulate, repetitive drinkers. (One has ~10 years of college education, and but he's the most primitive.) You could put this down to naturalism and forget it entirely, but for its two great lines. (The story is, then, a fine thing for the protagonist of 
  Birdman
 to stage - self-defeating, opaque, not as deep as it wants.)

Stories like these live or die on dialogue, and there's neither enough heft or polish in their chat for me. I always get Chandler and Carver mixed up (yeah, I know) - but if I didn't, I'd go for Chandler every time. The lowness of Chandler is Gothic, stylised, and somehow less general.

Plus one star for SMWSCTH.

tiff

What can I say? How does one get to write such meaning in such tightly manicured prose? I am speechless. This is not my favorite of his collections but it is very, very good.

I really like the way he tells stories and focuses on little things I'd usually take for granted. I also like that his characters are kind of unlikeable like real people.

Becca M

Ri Liu

Jas Wang

Short stories that feature a pantheon of losers, peripheral people, and men and women without education, insight, or prospects who, ironically, are too unimaginative to ever give up

Melody Izard

The things that aren't said are more haunting than the things that are said. 

His stories have more than a whiff of hopelessness. But the things that you don't find out are possibly worse.

Isabelle Dion

Went into this one with such high hopes... But it just wasn't for me. It was a collection of slice of life stories about people struggling with a variety of issues surrounding the idea of love, in all it's shapes. I don't always dislike ambiguous endings and little plot, but in this case I think that since there was so little character development, I just didn't enjoy it.

Howard Lo

Fantastic read... though you will be left feeling empty and thinking about loneliness...

In his second collection, including the iconic and much-referenced title story featured in the Academy Award-winning film Birdman, Carver establishes his reputation as one of the most celebrated short-story writers in American literature—a haunting meditation on love, loss, and companionship, and finding one’s way through the dark.

Beginners

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