Name: Dune Messiah
ISBN: 9780739423998

Frank Herbert

Dune messiah: "A holy war fought in space and on a thousand planets had made Paul Atreides the religious and political leader of the galaxy. The product of generations of controlled breeding, trained in the arcane disciplines by the Bene Gesserit sisterhood, he had more than human powers, including the ability to sense the shape of the future. Then the Bene Gesserit, unable to dominate the man they had made a god, set out to overthrow him. But Paul Atreides could foresee their plans and shape them to an unexpected and shocking goal..."--Dust jacket.

&, Children of Dune

Dune Messiah

Holly 

Jasper

Book Two in the Magnificent Dune Chronicles--the Bestselling Science Fiction Adventure of All Time Dune Messiah continues the story of Paul Atreides, better known--and feared--as the man christened Muad'Dib. As Emperor of the known universe, he possesses more power than a single man was ever meant to wield. Worshipped as a religious icon by the fanatical Fremen, Paul faces the enmity of the political houses he displaced when he assumed the throne--and a conspiracy conducted within his own sphere of influence. And even as House Atreides begins to crumble around him from the machinations of his enemies, the true threat to Paul comes to his lover, Chani, and the unborn heir to his family's dynasty...

Clearly such a let-down compared to the first book... It was definitely a bad idea to cut the most interesting character: the Lady Jessica. I'm curious to see how this book could possibly be adapted for a movie, but I'm quite sure it won't work out.

Gemma

that bit about his sister was weird right, I sure hope no stuff like that happens in the future books. 

Lukas

Of course it's hard to follow up on the masterpiece that is the first Dune but I would say that Herbert still disappoints in a lot of ways. 

What I did like was the constant subversion of expectations throughout, and the playing off fate and vision. His world also gets much more interesting with every new detail he adds. Much like the first book, I found this book redeemed by the last 80 pages or so but that still leaves a lot of fat (in an already short and well paced book) in the first 200 pages. 

I think that there is really good bones for a story in this novel but I think that Herbert's storytelling stands out as being the weakest link.  

I think that the movie adaptation (fingers crossed) will easily surpass this book in terms of raw quality, and storytelling. 

Derek Graf

Honestly closer to a 2.5 than a 3.5. 

Of course it's hard to follow up on the masterpiece that is the first Dune but I would say that Herbert still disappoints in a lot of ways. 

What I did like was the constant subversion of expectations throughout, and the playing off fate and vision. His world also gets much more interesting with every new detail he adds. Much like the first book, I found this book redeemed by the last 80 pages or so but that still leaves a lot of fat (in an already short and well paced book) in the first 200 pages. 

I think that there is really good bones for a story in this novel but I think that Herbert's storytelling stands out as being the weakest link.  

I think that the movie adaptation (fingers crossed) will easily surpass this book in terms of raw quality, and storytelling. 

Smaller world-building but well-paced. I really don't like Paul. I'm interested to see the movie adaptation.

Susan

Much like the first book, this took me so long to finish only because I got reading slump in the middle of reading it. I just really admire the worldbuilding that Frank Herbert did for Dune, and I think my little brain can understand better now not only because I've read the first book but the movies also helped! Duncan Idaho is my favorite always but Paul's character arc in this is so yummy in a miserable way that I just love. This book is just full of SADNESS and Paul going through all stages and types of griefs fr I feel bad for bro... The weird turn of relationship between Alia and Duncan is straight up my alley btw...

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This is a sequel that generally disappoints, mostly because the expectations are so high following a masterpiece. It is an exploration of the aftermath of placing absolute faith into a leader. While I can understand this as a response to the idolization of Paul and within the context of its release, much of the dialogue is uninteresting. I did not feel like I needed this book in the series; the subtext was present in the first one. I’m interested to see if I feel different after reading the next book!

My highlights: I enjoyed Hayt, I can see the line “A mentat requires data” becoming a meme, more Alia screen time, and the later parts of the novel after Paul is inflicted. 

Jevin Sidhu

This is a sequel that generally disappoints, mostly because the expectations are so high following a masterpiece. It is an exploration of the aftermath of placing absolute faith into a leader. While I can understand this as a response to the idolization of Paul and within the context of its release, much of the dialogue is uninteresting. I did not feel like I needed this book in the series; the subtext was present in the first one. I’m interested to see if I feel different after reading the next book!

My highlights: I enjoyed Hayt, I can see the line “A mentat requires data” becoming a meme, more Alia screen time, and the later parts of the novel after Paul is inflicted. 

He really did Chani dirty in this one NGL

Terra Ganey

Chris Dailey

The sequel to Sci-Fi's "supreme masterpiece" is subtler and more introspective but every bit as moving as the first installment. Focusing on the pitfalls and dangers of Heroes, the novel follows the aftermath of Paul Atriedies's jihad. Devastation of planets by his fanatical Fremen have left billions dead and Muab'did is left to question its necessity and if he could have stopped it. It's full the mind-bending imagery, complex character and simmers until it explodes into a boil. Expanding on the themes of the original, Messiah explores religion, greed, conquest, family, culture and free will (or the lack thereof). A standout of science fiction and the Kid A to Dune's OK Computer.

Jafe

definitely worth it

While not as epic as the first novel in the series, this is still of course written excellently. The character development is superb, and the plot may feel linear but there is a story to be told and a lesson Herbert wants us to learn about religion, government, the ego, love, and sacrifice.

“The Mother of Chaos was born in a sea… He watched me with eyes that knew I had learned something which was denied to him. I had become a sea creature and I frightened him. The sea healed me of the Jihad and I think he saw this.” (pg. 62)

“A touch of prescience came over Idaho then, and he saw that people of the future would speak of Paul in terms of seas. Despite a life soaked in dust, water would follow him. ‘His flesh floundered,’ they would say, ‘but he swam on.’” (pg. 325)

Bailee Strong

“The Mother of Chaos was born in a sea… He watched me with eyes that knew I had learned something which was denied to him. I had become a sea creature and I frightened him. The sea healed me of the Jihad and I think he saw this.” (pg. 62)

“A touch of prescience came over Idaho then, and he saw that people of the future would speak of Paul in terms of seas. Despite a life soaked in dust, water would follow him. ‘His flesh floundered,’ they would say, ‘but he swam on.’” (pg. 325)

Stronger, richer than the first. The title of messiah and all of its implications weigh heavy on just one man, who realizes the burden of what he’s created. Explores the duality of people in power—for those who are in prime positions yet want to be rid of it, and those who will clamor to keep these positions in their grasp. Fantastic, just fantastic.

Mattea Marjorie

Honestly think I read about a third of this too late at night and had trouble, in a state of stupid half-consciousness, following the heady language and conspiratorial plot. But damn is 

compelling and tragic. A classic sequel in that it carries on the themes of the first—all of the messianic foreboding and psychedelic weirdness—and turns it all up to eleven. It takes a pivot, though, in genre, trading most of the adventurous action for quieter, political intrigue. Yet it retains much of the excitement and inventiveness of its predecessor. 

I think this one could grew on me even more with a revisit. (I feel the same about the first.) But first, I’m excited to continue on with the next books in the series, even if this does seem to offer a satisfying end to the story of Paul Muad’Dib. 

Michael Klepacki

Honestly think I read about a third of this too late at night and had trouble, in a state of stupid half-consciousness, following the heady language and conspiratorial plot. But damn is Dune Messiah compelling and tragic. A classic sequel in that it carries on the themes of the first—all of the messianic foreboding and psychedelic weirdness—and turns it all up to eleven. It takes a pivot, though, in genre, trading most of the adventurous action for quieter, political intrigue. Yet it retains much of the excitement and inventiveness of its predecessor. 

I think this one could grew on me even more with a revisit. (I feel the same about the first.) But first, I’m excited to continue on with the next books in the series, even if this does seem to offer a satisfying end to the story of Paul Muad’Dib. 

Just like Dune, this is beautifully written. My favorite sections of this book are when the inner lives of the characters are explored, the thoughts processes and turmoil that runs through their minds. 

Rachel Stratton

DUNE MESSIAH: the extraordinary sequel to Dune, the greatest science fiction novel of all time. Twelve years after his victory over House Harkonnen, Paul Atreides rules as emperor from the desert planet Arrakis - but his victory has had profound consequences. War has been brought to the entire known universe, and billions have already perished. Despite having become the most powerful emperor known to history, Paul is powerless to bring an end to the fighting. While former allies conspire to dethrone Paul and even his own consort acts against him, Paul accepts a gift from the Tleilaxu, a guild of genetic manipulators, hoping to find a single spark of peace and friendship amidst the betrayal and chaos. But this act undermines Paul's support from the Fremen, his own people. The Fremen are the true source of Paul's power; losing them is the one thing that could truly topple his empire. As matters escalate, Paul will be forced to chose between his throne, his wife, his people and his future - and the future of the entire universe. An epic novel of the cost of victory... and the price of war. Brilliant...it is all that Dune was, and maybe a little more. -- Galaxy Magazine

Aan het begin vond ik het boek wel taai omdat het zo ingewikkeld was. Maar toen ik er halverwege inzat pakte ik goed door. De foreshadowing en worldbuilding is echt heel goed in deze serie. Het einde had ik niet verwacht en in mijn ogen heeft Paul zich redemed(voor nu dan, geen idee wat er nog verder gaat gebeuren) Ik ben vrij benieuwd naar het volgende boek.

Bart Veldhuijsen 

ryan carlos tsumire de Guzman

It might just speak to the mythical quality of Herbert's storytelling, but what this long epilogue is able to accomplish is both surprising and unforgiving. My brain and heart hurt.

Paige LeBook

It is definitely an extended epilogue of Dune, but it’s so necessary to the story. A satisfying conclusion to that narrative  

Zachary Roberts

guild navigators are still one of the craziest sci fi inventions ever like wtf lol [i also will now forever see them as they were portrayed in the david lynch movie - mutated and deformed feral tardigrade like creatures in a steampunk sauna of spice - which i think is actually a misunderstood (albeit flawed) film]

mina nayeri

Cody Degen

** spoiler alert **
           mixed feelings on it compared to dune. The scope feels much smaller than previous book. Not sure what to think of the undertones of the book, in which Paul seems to be the only thing keeping the movement that he created from falling off the tracks. it may be hard to separate the book from what I already know of the story and memes surrounding it, because it really does just feel like a way to get more Duncan Idaho, who I wouldn't have considered one of the core characters. Really interesting decision to jump forward 12 years in which a lot of stuff happened that you traditionally would see in the first sequel, I wonder what compelled him to make that choice. In some ways I feel like I've been trained by a lot of media recently to expect to know everything about everything, and so all this stuff happening off page is very weird to me. I guess that's what having a son is for, so they can fill in every single detail you ever would've thought about. Overall 3 1/2 to 4 stars I would think, I put the next sequel on hold, but it won't be available for a month or two

Quinn Tenorio

I found this to be an insanely great follow up to Dune. After the success of our hero in the last book, turning that concept on its head and imposing another point of view was exactly the right direction to take the story. It has been almost a year since reading at the time of this review, so I am struggling to recall all that I enjoyed about the sequel.

[Spoilers below]

One aspect of this novel in particular that I enjoyed was the introduction of the Face Dancers. The concept of such a human is so interesting and I love how Herbert explored it. Additionally, I enjoy his creative nature when it comes to naming/describing particular aspects of this universe (e.g. Face Dancers being used as a name for humans who can change their physical attributes).

The sisterhood of the Bene Gesserit plots to seize control of the galaxy-wide empire of their supernatural leader

Aamna

Picked it up and read it over two days. 

Lacking as much world-depth/building as the first book, Messiah more than makes up for it with complex character development and tense, layered conversations and plot lines. 

From this point onwards the series appears to be taking on a high sci-fi path and I'm loving it.

This didn't hold the same magic for me as the first book, but how could it? The first book's strength lied in it's mystique and intricate description of a strange world, but it lifted the veil for further books. Children of Dune does however excell at telling a story of political intrigue with a strong philosophical bent.

Dune Messiah &, Children of Dune

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