The Philosopher Kings

The Philosopher Kings A Novel

Jo Walton2015
From acclaimed, award-winning author Jo Walton: Philosopher Kings, a tale of gods and humans, and the surprising things they have to learn from one another. Twenty years have elapsed since the events of The Just City. The City, founded by the time-traveling goddess Pallas Athene, organized on the principles espoused in Plato's Republic and populated by people from all eras of human history, has now split into five cities, and low-level armed conflict between them is not unheard-of. The god Apollo, living (by his own choice) a human life as "Pythias" in the City, his true identity known only to a few, is now married and the father of several children. But a tragic loss causes him to become consumed with the desire for revenge. Being Apollo, he goes handling it in a seemingly rational and systematic way, but it's evident, particularly to his precocious daughter Arete, that he is unhinged with grief. Along with Arete and several of his sons, plus a boatload of other volunteers--including the now fantastically aged Marsilio Ficino, the great humanist of Renaissance Florence--Pythias/Apollo goes sailing into the mysterious Eastern Mediterranean of pre-antiquity to see what they can find--possibly the man who may have caused his great grief, possibly communities of the earliest people to call themselves "Greek." What Apollo, his daughter, and the rest of the expedition will discover...will change everything.
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Sunyi Dean@sunyidean
4 stars
Dec 17, 2021

The Philosopher Kings by Jo Walton My rating: 4 of 5 stars Clever and detailed, not to mention elegantly written, but ultimately the narrative is constrained by the very strictures it sets out to explore and (I felt) a little lacking in emotional depth, despite being in first person. I have a pretty high tolerance for musing, thoughtful, character novels which ramble gently without heavy plot, and of course the promise of Socratic dialogue in spades was a huge draw. However, the book did drag in places even for me; I found myself skimming Maia's sections but avidly reading Simmea's and Apollo's. What definitively knocked the last star off for me was Sokrates. Any story which includes him as a character is always going to be taking a risk, since he is a phenomenally influential character for whom readers will have high expectations. Matt Hilliard once said that authors should be careful about writing messianic messages or sermons unless they are themselves Messiahs. A similar comparison springs to mind re authors and philosophers. The didactic rhetoric and Socratic dialogue often fell flat for me, with logical disconnects between arguments. I would also argue that Socratic dialogue isn't really debate; it's artificial and constructed to prove the main speaker's point. Walton seems to have aimed for a halfway point between true rhetoric and group discussion, but didn't quite nail either in many instances. Sokrates versus Athena carried well (the Final Debate) but not so much Sokrates and Simmea/Apollo. The novel did offer a robust defense of the Republic which often gets much flack, although in the end it did come down firmly on the side of Plato's ideas being too unworkable in many cases. I think its other strong point (I don't usually say this) is the thoughtful and scintillating examination of feminism in this context, with full nuance and no easy answers. I would happily recommend to any fans of Jo Walton's other works, or fans of literary and/or philosophical science fantasy.

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Luke Kanies@lak
3 stars
Dec 4, 2021

It ended much better than it began, so in the end I enjoyed it, but the beginning was dry enough that I would struggle to recommend it. Probably worth the read if you find yourself wanting to spend hours arguing about Plato. Note I didn't realize this was a sexual until I finished the book, which likely reduced my enjoyment.

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Alexandria Wilkie@sandrylene
4.5 stars
Jul 1, 2022
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Aloe Han@elixirical
3 stars
Jan 8, 2024
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Sara Piteira @sararsp
4 stars
Oct 31, 2022
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Lindsay Hollmann@sunflowergord
3 stars
Feb 23, 2022
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Steven O'Toole@osteven
5 stars
Dec 27, 2021
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Karlie Gill@kgill
5 stars
Oct 22, 2021
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Tetiana Bilokin@gorob4ik
3 stars
Aug 14, 2021
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Chris Ogden@ctogden
4 stars
Jun 18, 2021

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